Warnings on Carbon Treaty

The CTF is warning in national newspapers that Canada signing onto agreement in Copenhagen would lead to billions of tax dollars being shipped off in environmental aid to countries such as Burundi and Uganda coupled with crippling energy taxes and dubious proposals for carbon trading schemes.

Radical global warming activists were recently dealt a serious blow when thousands of e-mails and research files surfaced from the Climate Research Unit (CRU) in the United Kingdom suggesting prominent scientists from around the world have been working together for years to “cook” temperature data.  The CRU is one of the four main temperature record sources used by the United Nations to justify protocols such as Kyoto and now Copenhagen.

 

In two recent videos (here and here), CTF president Troy Lanigan sits down with Climatologist Dr. Tim Ball to discuss what he calls the “fraud” of Climategate. The matters surrounding Climategate are serious and require governments here and abroad to investigate the legitimacy of temperature readings from their respective state-funded institutions before imposing dubious econoimc policies during a recession.

Be sure to check out our national campaign page on carbon taxes and cap-and-trade.

Other media: Maureen Bader talks about Copenhagen on roadkill radio.

By: Troy Lanigan
Posted: December 14, 2009
Topic: Federal

Type: In the News

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Carbon Taxes

Modern Canadians use more energy per capita than nearly every other nation on the planet. The greater part of that energy is produced by the combustion of fossil fuels which release CO2 into the atmosphere. Rising CO2 levels are altering the planet's climate before our eyes. The science on this, for all your flogging the denier's dead horse was sorted out in the last century. Reality won't go away just because you disagree with it. You want to go toe to toe with modern climatology? Good luck with that.

African nations are among the hardest hit by climate change, caused principally by western industrial nations emissions of CO2 over the past century. This isn't rocket science, which suggests either willful ignorance on your part or a viciously narrowminded selfishness which isn't just obscene, its lethal.

Canada is one of the wealthiest nations on the planet. We have billions for security, trillions for national defence; we can afford to behave like adults and take our global responsibilities seriously instead of whining like a bunch of disgracefully spoiled - and ridiculously out of touch - children.

The folly of ' Human CO2 caused (Anthropogenic) Global Warming '

' Modern Canadians use more energy per capita than nearly every other nation on the planet.'

This would be one of the most common statements that (predominantly socialist) climate alarmists use, in their attempt to guilt  honest, hard - working Canadians into repenting of their 'Carbon Sins'. They intentionally mislead in making no allowance for the fact that we chose to pitch our tents in a fairly inhospitable environment, are sparsely settled, and have vast distances to travel to  transport goods and people ( especially when compared to Europe). Nor do they give credit for the fact that Canada's vast forests convert incomparable amounts of life-giving CO2 to oxygen. As they would have it, existing and travelling in this great country is evil, and must be taxed and controlled.

 

' Reality won't go away just because you disagree with it. You want to go toe to toe with modern climatology? Good luck with that. '

By 'modern climatology, I suspect you are referring to the scandal - ridden IPCC and its chief 'climate scientist', railroad engineer Ragendra Pachauri. Recent  scandals within the IPCC and its chief information source - the Climate Research Unit (CRU)at East Anglia University, have resulted in serious doubts in fact, as to the reliability of their chief commodity - disaster forecasting. The Canadian government should be held to account for continuing to rely on such sources for guidance. We do have limited resources, and to place our bets ( and $Billions) on man's ability to effect his climate by reducing life - giving atmospheric CO2, is at the expense of every other program upon which Canadians rely. 

 

'Rising CO2 levels are altering the planet's climate before our eyes. The science on this, for all your flogging the denier's dead horse was sorted out in the last century. '

The  most common alarmist' claim is that ' the science on Human - caused Global Warming ....is settled '. Few things in science of course are ever settled, and it patently absurd to expect that weather and climate - our most chaotic system, with literally thousands of variables, only a few of which are actually well understood - could actually be considered 'settled science'. It should be understood that this claim is only made by scoundrels who are afraid of open and honest debate, and have something which they need desperately to hide from public scrutiny. Think about the last time Al Gore agreed to open public debate with an AGW sceptic. You were right - it's never happened.

 

' African nations are among the hardest hit by climate change, caused principally by western industrial nations emissions of CO2 over the past century. This isn't rocket science, which suggests either willful ignorance on your part or a viciously narrowminded selfishness which isn't just obscene, its lethal. '

This of course, is mere assertion. Top climatologists on both sides of the argument, have berated Al Gore and the IPCC about connecting Climate Change to any particular weather or climate event.  There is zero evidence that any relationship exists, except in the mind of this writer. If a relationship had in fact been established between rising atmospheric CO2 and storm activity for example, then declining CO2 would have been a reality in recent years, as worldwide hurricane activity was at a decadal low in 2009. The last FEW North Atlantic hurricane seasons have been very quiet. In fact, there was not a single significant hurricane to damage the US Gulf Coast this last season, despite the incessant linear rise in atmospheric CO2, and the increasingly shrill assertions by climate alarmists that rising CO2 and natural disaster go hand-in-hand.

 

' Canada is one of the wealthiest nations on the planet. We have billions for security, trillions for national defence; we can afford to behave like adults and take our global responsibilities seriously instead of whining like a bunch of disgracefully spoiled - and ridiculously out of touch - children.'

There may have been a billion dollars spent on security by Canadians and their government in fiscal 2009, but in regards to defense spending, this writer is as out to lunch as he / she appears to be on the issue of Climate Change. Canadians have a global responsibility not in how  they address Climate Change (yes, climate has been changing for as long as there has been climate), but in how they use their wealth to help create a better world through peacekeeping, finance, and trade in material goods, services, and intellectual resources.


 

 

 

 

Carbon taxes

I agree with the "anonymous taxpayer" above. 

Climate change deniers like Tim Ball are really arguing for "do nothing" status quo.  Do they really believe that we can pump millions of tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere each year, with no consequences?  The atmosphere is finite, not infinite!  We must stop treating it like "that big, free garbage dump in the sky."

Nobody likes taxes - but governments need tax revenues to provide public services.  Why not tax carbon and offset this revenue by lowering payroll taxes and income tax?  Taxes can be used as fair and efficient public policy instruments.  If taxes are used wisely, they provide the right signals to consumers and can help to cover off extenal costs to health or the environment. 

A carbon tax could function like the other current "sin taxes" on cigarettes, booze and gambling.  There is no need to create an expensive, ineffective, inefficient carbon trading system that benefits only the middlemen.

I hope the Canadian Taxpyers Association can keep an open mind on this issue and not just come down on the side of the do-nothing deniers.

Another Anonymous Taxpayer - Regina, Sk.

 

 

Deniers?

I'm confused. Please explain why 'climate warming' (now referred to as climate change', to lighten some of the red faces) advocates, using misleading information and faulty science' should be able to seek millions for their claimed cause, and not be subjected to open debate?

In true science, debate is encouraged, not stifled. Also, scientific fact is not arrived at by consensus but rather by constant observation, testing and experimentation. How is it that those requesting open debate (and not requesting billions in government funding) are classified as 'deniers'?

In fact, how can anyone who refuses to accept outright fraud be considered a 'denier'?

D. Mullen - Nova Scotia

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