MP Pension Rip-off Will Cost Taxpayers at Least $277 Million

39 MPs elected in 2006 qualify for $30.9 million lifetime payout on January 23, 2012

Taxpayers contribute $248,668 per year to each MPs pension, while MPs contribute as little as $10,990 per year

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OTTAWA, ON: With only a few days to go before the 6th anniversary of the 2006 election, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation (CTF) has released a report estimating that the cost to retire the entire 41st Parliament in 2015 is at least $262 million in cumulative pensions and $15 million in severance payoffs.

The CTF's report can be downloaded here: http://taxpayer.com/sites/default/files/CTFMP-PensionReport-WEB.pdf

If every current MP were to stay in office until 2019, the CTF estimates the pension tab would soar to $436 million, with an additional $9.8 million in severance payoffs.

“These are conservative estimates,” said Gregory Thomas, CTF Federal Director, “no pun intended.”

The CTF has also discovered that while officially taxpayers contribute $5.80 for every $1 contributed by an MP to an MP’s pension account, the true amount is actually $23.30 for every $1 contributed by the MP.

The hidden contributions are due to the government adding “interest” into the MP pension accounts at a rate of 10.4 per cent per year – even though MP pension funds are not invested into the market like other pension funds (e.g. Ontario Teachers’ Pension Fund).

“Even during the market meltdown of 2008—when the Canada Pension Plan lost 18.6 per cent of its value, the Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan lost 18 per cent, the Quebec Pension Plan lost 25 per cent and the S&P/TSX total return index lost 33 per cent—the MP pension plan returned 10.4 per cent, just as it has every other year,” continued Thomas. “I’d bet there’s a few million Canadians who would love to see a government-guaranteed 10.4 per cent annual return on their RRSPs.”

This taxpayer-funded “interest” results in taxpayers contributing $248,668 each year to each MP’s pension fund, while backbench MPs can contribute as little as $10,990 per year. The base salary for an MP is $157,000.

The government’s chief actuary said in 2010 that the interest rate MPs are paying themselves “is not appropriate” recommending it be cut by half. The actuary found the plan’s excess, or surplus, had climbed to $175 million in 2010.

The Actuary report can be downloaded here: www.osfi-bsif.gc.ca/app/DocRepository/1/eng/reports/oca/mp10_e.pdf

“Teachers, bus drivers, farmers, cops, small business owners, would all love to get a pension at age 55 after only six years of service,” said Thomas. “We’re putting more into MP’s pension plans than we are paying them each year, and they only contribute $10,990 of that to this gold-plated pension scheme. It’s a national disgrace.”

Thirty-nine MPs will become eligible for the MP pension plan on January 23, 2012 after six years of service. The ‘Class of 06’ will be eligible for a collective $1,927,000 in annual pensions in 2015, adding up to $29.1 million by age 80.

The CTF is calling on MPs to shut down the current MP pension scheme and join the new Pooled Registered Pension Plan (PRPP) like any other Canadian worker. Further, taxpayer contributions should be capped at a dollar-to-dollar level and the “Lavigne clause” needs to be in place to ensure convicted fraudsters are barred from collecting Parliamentary pension benefits.

“It’s time to remove every kind of fraud and larceny from the Parliamentary pension scheme,” said Thomas.

“The Harper government is getting ready to make some tough choices: cutting spending, reining in wages and pensions for government employees and cutting unnecessary government jobs. They need the moral authority gained by cutting their own pensions if they want to rein in spending on government employee pensions,” concluded Thomas.

The CTF’s MP pension report contains estimates for MP pension and severance payments for every single Member of Parliament based on a 2015 and 2019 election.

It can be downloaded here: http://taxpayer.com/sites/default/files/CTFMP-PensionReport-WEB.pdf

By: Gregory Thomas
Posted: January 18, 2012
Topic: Federal

Type: News Releases

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Once apon a time when people ran for government, they left there leadership jobs in the bank, the factory, the educational institution to make a contribution to the Canadian people and help build Canada as a place to be proud of.

They would bring to the position all of the expereince and knowledge they had garnered in their lives and jobs, and those were the principle on which their pensions were to be secured. Good men and women were setting aside their careers to serve Canada

No such thing exists now. Most if not all people who run for government have never worked any where else but in a political party, as a lawyer in a firm that is highly politizied or on the very very rare occcasssion they come from the real world.

Today's politician are giving nothing up to serve they are getting a great job, with staff, and budgets. They understand and appreciate the good life and they step up to grab on to that brass ring....pensions being only one part of the goodlife.

i would be happy to pay a government mp or mpp who brought expereince and knowledge of the world, but to pay such a high price for someone whose only expereince is working inside the party system, what do you really get? a trained lobbiest.....and why would the people of canada pay for that????

One foot - two shoes

No wonder they (most politicians) want to raise retirement to 67 as they can divert more of our taxes to themselves while they continually come up with new laws and strategies to ROB the people of this great country. Greed is the standard of business and politics as they are the biggest "money pit" that we are up against. Just look at how much money was spent on a WEEKEND MEETING just after the first quarter of the GST introduction to figure out the unforeseen surplus in taxes....OVER A MILLION. We, the highest taxed middle income people have to endure the financial raping for the last 30 years+. Makes me wonder if we should have a "middle income" party to go after these greedy/laughing bureaucrats and put the interests of "THE REAL TAXPAYERS" first. I'm so mad I can't write anymore. :(

Support your politicians - lower your pension to do so!

Hello: OK – this is the time for the big push back on our present government. Why do they get to be paid BIG pensions and we get peanuts? And now we are being told that our pensions are in question? Here is the first of many ways to ask questions and raise some issue with your MP – Time to act! Get on the telephone – email your MP, schedule a meeting, ask for updates and answers.

Please ask as many people in your circle of friends and relatives to get on with it and start to ask questions of these trough feeders.. You will see many emails about this issue and we all need to act together as a group.

I will be telephoning all of these offices below. If we say nothing they assume that we are in agreement. Time for Baby Boomers to Rebel! Step up and speak out! You have been paying taxes for a very long time and your pension is under threat and about to be reduced or taken away. Speak out and act up!

To the three government leaders reading this – I want you to know that I have forwarded this on to 25 people so they too will become aware and awake as to what is being done to us. Twenty-five of us old boomers can grow very quickly into a bunch of very rebellious and questioning sheeple . I do request that the pension reforms spoken about by Mr. Harper will be presented to the people in an election platform.

How did your RRSPs do in 2008? If they performed anything like the CPP (lost 18%) or the TSX (lost 33%), you’d probably rather not think about it.

Do you know how the pension funds of Members of Parliament did during the 2008 recession and market melt-down? Incredibly theygrew by 10.4%.

Was this thanks to masterful investment strategy? No. In fact, MP pension funds are not invested at all. They are notional accounts that are guaranteed, by law, to grow by 10.4% a year, every year. This ‘interest’ is paid into these accounts by taxpayers.

In fact, while we once thought taxpayers were chipping in $5.80 for every $1 contributed by an MP into their pension accounts, thanks to these phony interest earnings, taxpayers are actually kicking in $23.30 for every $1 paid in by an MP.

What this means is that on average, taxpayers are putting more money into an MP’s pension account each year ($248,000) than we’re paying them in salary ($157,000 base pay) and way, way more than MPs themselves are contributing to their own pensions ($10,990 minimum).

Earlier today, the CTF held a national press conference in Ottawa to blow the whistle on these outrageous ‘interest’ payments.

We know that in order for our MPs to have the moral authority to reform the pensions of government workers, they must first reform their own pensions.

And it can’t happen soon enough.

A recent C.D. Howe Institute report pegs the unfunded liability in federal government employee pension plans at $227 billion. That’s a debt (in addition to our nearly $580 billion federal debt) of over $6,500 for every man, woman and child in Canada, just to cover the shortfalls in bureaucrat pensions.

We’re hopeful Prime Minister Harper is starting to understand this. On Monday, the Prime Minister told CBC’s Peter Mansbridge that “…it also raises the issue of pensions of Parliamentarians and that issue will have to be looked at, at the same time.”

We need to take action now and give Mr. Harper as well as our opposition leaders a push in the right direction.

Step 1: Call or e-mail Prime Minister Harper (613-992-4211 orpm@pm.gc.ca)

Step 2: Call or e-mail interim NDP leader Nycole Turmel (613-992-7550 or nycole.turmel@parl.gc.ca)

Step 3: Call or e-mail interim Liberal leader Bob Rae (613-992-5234 or bob.rae@parl.gc.ca)

Knee-Jerks' reactions

Every major organization undertakes regular reviews of their executives' compensation packages. This is an important and complex exercise. And one which all our governments should undertake to ensure that its citizens get the best people at a fair price.

Today's topic, in the way it has been presented, is simple sensationalism. It was meant, during these tough times in Ontario, to mine the anger and fears of Ontarians and elicit a predictable response. This is beneath the CBC, and the producer who brought this topic to the fore, has a bright future with FOX News, if not SunTV.

That said, if people want a peek into a future where elected officials' compensation is underfunded, they need only look at the slate of candidates that offered themselves up to run as the Republican nominee for the US presidency.

MP Pensions

And one which all ... is not a sentence.

It is a stretch to call the genuflecting sycophants, herded into offices meant for our MP's, as value for $$'s. Their skill appears to be in following; we could get a herd of sheep at a better price plus revenue from the wool.
You are right about "tough times" and that is the point - perception, after all, is everything.

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We stop this legalized form of robbery by voting out the government of the day. Didn't Harper promise us that his government would be different?

I guess when you get a taste of power and priviledge it's hard not to be corrupted by it.

MP's Pension Plan

I have been talking about this legalized robbery of the Canadian taxpayer for years. When are people going to wake up and realize our so-called public servants
are our Masters. We have to make fundamental changes in government to limit abuses like these outrageous pensions. I'm also sick of hearing about how hard our politicians work. They do work hard at stealing more money from our pockets. When are people going to get mad as hell and not take it anymore? Maybe never!

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I don't mind paying taxes when it's being used for health care, education, etc.( things it is supposed to be used for) but it makes me very angry when I hear that some rich beyond my wildest dreams politician is using it to pad his or her own pockets. Even if politicians were doing a good job they wouldn't be worth anything near what they make. How about getting some honest people with a few morals to run this country. People that actually care about other human beings, instead of the greedy, thieving, liars we have now.

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The Reform party awhile back was against these kinds of pension payouts? What happened Mr. Harper? You were the leader of that Reform party.

The pension I have is considered as a "cadillac pension plan". It is a defined benefit plan from a major Canadian resource company. After 30 years I receive $ 36,000 per year. At 65 it drops to $ 24,000. I worked 7 years at my previous job at a power company and received nothing for those years.

I was a muncipal councillor for 18 years. Pension from the city ZERO. Should have ran for MP.

This is as bad as the bonus payouts at wall Street and the chief executives Nortel scam. How do MP's cash their cheques in good faith.

I have a suggestion...

End ALL govt pensions.

Pay the salary up front so we can see to what extent these govt workers (politicians included) are costing us.

Once we do, we'll all realise what a racket it is.

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Is there anyway that a country wide petition can be undertaken to either urge our lawmakers or make them change the current pension plan for MPs? Would not the CFA be a logical coordinator of such a petition?
I think everyone except MPs and their families would sign such a petition. It is a no brainer. It is time for Canadians to stop complaining about this situation and do something about it!

MPs have no conscience.

Literally well over 65% of Canadians employed in private sector employment upon retirement will barely subsist with the meagre OAS, supplement to the OAS and where entiteled with the Canada Pension plan requireing many in their retirement years to rely on food banks and what part time employment they would have to rely on. In the meantime, not only our Members of Parliament but also Members of our respective Legislative Assemblies will enjoy a Cadillac style of retirement with the benefits they voted themselves and the well paid public service employees federally and provincially. What a shame with this taking place in our so-called democratic system of government.

Stephen
Edmonton, AB

voter turnout

And they wonder why the younger generation have no interest in Politics. The young people aren't blind and dumb. When they see and hear things like this rip -off from the politicians,I don't even want to vote or have anything to do with these "crooks"..

This rings true for me. I'm

This rings true for me. I'm in my 30's and my wife and I are quite certain there will be NO CPP money left for us in 20-30 years, due in part to the way the tax base is being squandered, so we're living frugally now and expect to do so for the duration of our lives.

Some rail against the corruption and waste, others do their best to cash out of this awful system as much as is possible. Living well below the poverty line, especially by growing our own food, we want to be irrelevant to the CRA.

There is a good-enough, happy and fulfilling life to be had well outside of the realm of national politics, aka neo-feudalism.

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They need to go one step further.
ALL Politicians should be banned from working for ANY company, entity or enterprise that benefited from changes to Labour laws, Tax laws, Employment Standards etc. while that politician was in office.
Yes, it's sickening to think that Joe Average can work for 40+ years and end up with less of a pension than some trough-sucking pig that served two terms.
This needs to change!

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All elected or appointed members of goverment, public sector workers, that is any person who gets paid with tax payer’s money should collect pensions starting at 65 years of age just like all working Canadians. Their pensions should be based using their pension factor and the highest pension paid should be no higher than the average working wage of a Canadian ($45,000.00 annually) and receive the same medical benefit as retired working Canadians.

MP Pension Rip-off Will Cost Taxpayers at Least $277 Million

Everyone thought if was great when the govt MP's ripped off their employees pension plan's surplus - both the employer and employees' contribution parts of the surplus, while any independent employer would have been arrested had they done the same - so it does not surprise me that they, the MPs, are hypocrites when it come to ripping of the public for their own pension plans - only now the public is crying foul. Guess it is ok to beat up on public employees who get lumped together with MP's by the public, thank you Taxpayer.com for not doing that now.

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Outrageous ! I am self-employed and as such have no pension plan other than CPP if it still exists when I am too old to work. My mother was right....I should have got into politics. You don't need any training or education, just enough votes to get you in. Then you can get your snout into the trough. MPs contribute one dollar for every thirty - two (?) that the taxpayers contribute ? WTF !?

And it goes on with their beneficiaries!

We don't know anything about how the beneficiary portion of this plan works .. this just gets worse!

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absolutley assinine how can they have the gull to except these amounts when many canadians have lost their pension, or allow companies to cancel their pensions plans and reduce salaries by 70% I should tell my Mp to call my Boss to give me a pension after six yrs, he would say to him go jump in a lake. I had $130,000 in pension over 16 yrs my boss at the time ( old Employer )was allowed to leave the country , no severence, I'm 47 and no pension, and one more thing the EMployment standard act of Ontario is absolutely garbage employees are treated like crap. The employers must allow family leave of upto 10 weeks but dont have to pay - i have to go for major surgery, i have to take 10 weeks off, after 10 days my employer doesnt have to hold my job for me. Also eployment benfits are antiquated ei pays me 200 a weeks if i go on gove't s/a i get 160 a week because im not looking for work.

oldest trick in the books

the whole oh look over there @ how over entitiled the civil servants are don't look @ us keep your attention over there.
redirect the attention away from your grubby fingers in the cookie jar.
too bad someone kept their eyes on the mps.

Clement - more 'old tricks' to come with MP Pension 'Reform'

If you saw the picture today of Tony Clement, head of the Treasury Board, with his hands gently waiving while yapping away, you'll know by his 'style' he is not going to make any significant changes to the MP plan. But it will sound like big changes.
Can you spell Gazebo?

This guy is NOT to be trusted - read the article ' New memos contradict Clement on G8 legacy fund.' Are we surprised? And do we think he is going to do anything 'real' about the MP pension plan?

Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/

In fact I predict he's going to feed everyone some smooth talk with his hands waving about while he puts the 'spin' on the 'options' he comes out with, that will sound like change, but all of these MPs and their beneficiaries to the MP pension plan, are going all the way to the bank now and way into the future!

We cannot forget that Tony works for Harper. His 'spin' to us will have gone through Harper first. Wait for it....

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Was this pension fiasco put in law by a Conservative or Liberal government?
How do we stop it? It is sad that the people we elected take advantage
and show no remorse for this rip-off of the common taxpayer.

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Great question. How do we stop it?

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A good starting point is to e-mail the Prime Minister, as many MP's that you can think of, plus all of these people listed below,who make up the Board of Internal Economy. Then send this info to all of your friends and get them to do the same thing.........it's time we, the people, were heard!

peter.vanloan@parl.gc.ca, andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, gordon.oconnor@parl.gc.ca, rob.merrifield@parl.gc.ca, Judy.Foote@parl.gc.ca, joe.comartin@parl.gc.ca, chris.charlton@parl.gc.ca

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